Finishedthis week's episode. I was SO HAPPY to see George Huang back, even if it was only for a bit. The episode itself was okay, but aside from van der Beek, and Nikki M. James (who I adore...so I'm biased), it was so filled with terrible guest actors. Also, van der Beek's motivations seemed a little weak, and it would have been more interesting, however creepy, if Taylor was his daughter. It did remind me of that episode with Schuyler Fisk, but I just handwaved it, seeing how they put a different spin on it, and this was one of the only good episodes of the season, in my opinion. Rollins was great in this one, but Amaro's still as bland as ever. Ah, well.
Yeah it was good to see George back It's somewhat hilarious though that he has to announce that he is gay now...I remember it was never mentioned for years and years and then suddenly out of the blue he said "As a gay man..." and everyone was like...wow...that's as obscure as when ADA Southerlyn came out.
I was a bit meh about the episode, though...for a start it wasn't even an SVU case, so I can't really understand why they were called in, and certainly by the end of the episode I had to wonder if James Van Der Beek had actually committed any crime at all - all the girls were over 16, and he never killed anyone...so aside from being a pain in the arse, he didn't seem to have broken the law. Maybe obstruction of justice...
I don't get the hate for Amaro I quite like him, though I think Rollins gets better and better every week...I hear Detective Cassady is returning, though...
Wait, you mean Nina from Law & Order or Brian from SVU. The later i assume. And by the way, i think Hueng said he was gay wither in season 10 or 11. The episode about a pedophile comparing himself to gays saying that pedophilia is wired.
And I think most of the hate is coming from Stabler fans. I like Amaro and his story with his wife. I like it when an episode peeks into the life of the detectives and when the characters, especially the main characters aren't driving it like the truck from Mad Max 2.
Yeah Brian (I think there is a slight difference in the spelling, isn't there? Nina Cassidy and Brian Cassady? Could be wrong about that ). And yeah, it was Season 11 that Huang revealed he was gay, and exactly - the one where paedophilia is exactly the same as homosexuality apparently. Though, it was just weird that after all the years he'd worked with SVU, and all the cases involving homosexuality they'd ever been through, he suddenly came out with that comment. No reason why now I suppose, just seemed a bit left field (I suspect they only did it at BD Wong's insistance, but it's nice to actually see a gay regular in Law & Order...shame they just never admit it from the beginning. Although, perhaps, it's better that they don't - being they shouldn't be judged on their sexuality...damned if they do, damned if they don't.)
Yeah, a lot of people weren't keen on Stabler moving on. Having said that, I think after twelve years the Stabler/Benson dynamic was getting a little tired, and I'm happy to see the changes in SVU - there seems to be much more of a team feeling this season, and Munch is finally getting the opportunity to actually act as a sergeant. Equally, the relatively believability of the Law & Order franchise was being stretched a bit by recent SVU seasons, so this season seems to reign it in, which is cool. I don't mind Amaro really - give him a year and he'll develop nicely.
I hope they do give him a chance like everyone gave Rey a chance after he replaced Mike. And to be honest, I was starting to kinda find myself hating Stabler a bit. In the last three seasons he became an overdone Dirty Harry stereotype. Watching him beat people up and shove crime scene photos in their faces was getting to over the top. I was thinking "Stop it, dammnit, you're going to get the case thrown out." I didn't like that there wasn't much cast change in SVU. There were only additions that i found weren't needed. Like, does the Medical Examiner really need to be noticed in the intro? Then why not CSU technicians or judges and defense lawyers.
And I totally agree about Munch. Finally showing his authority... Like Sergeants do.
Yeah, pretty much agree with you on all those points. I remember, I think it was maybe season six or seven, where someone accused Stabler of molesting her, and Cragen sort of laughed in her face and said Stabler was a decorated detective without a single complaint against him, and from almost that point on, there IAB seemed to be in Stabler's face every second week, and most of the time it seemed deserved. It did seem like he was out of control by the end, and Cragen just stood by and let it happen. If it wasn't for the fact that the cynical part of me thinks it was just poor writing, you could almost argue that there was some sort of grand plan for writing Stabler out .
And, agree again about the countless additions. In the beginning there were four cast members (five by the end of the season), then at season nine they had nine cast members, and TARU Tech Morales seemed to be in more episodes than some of the primary cast! It was madness for a while...bringing the cast back to six seems to have made the show a little tighter as a result.
The biggest complaint I have (and this is me being really anal), is the claim that Mike Cutter was promoted to SVU Bureau Chief ADA. Sorry, but Cutter was EADA in Law & Order...Amaro says that EADA Haden is number 2 in the DA Office (as was established with Stone and McCoy), so how was Cutter becoming a Bureau Chief a step up? Surely it was a step down? I have a theory that when McCoy was replaced, Cutter stepped down because he refused to act as the new DA's Executive. Just irks me cause I like Cutter a lot (still bitter about Law & Order being cancelled ).
I know what you mean. 20 good years of investigating and prosecuting and then it's like, "Okay, we'll cancel you know. Your ratings are better than the crap on the CW, but not good enough for NBC standards, bye." And then no one picked it up. I like Cutter too. The only good thing about his demotion is that we got to see him again. SOmetimes i think about seeing Logan on SVU, but as soon as i think of him as a regular I forget about it because I think going from MCS to SVU would be a big downgrade for him. Just b/c majority of fans like the show dosen't mean being a sex crimes detective is something everyone should aim for.
I must admit it surprised me, given the ratings in the final year, that another channel didn't pick it up. After all, it's not like it would be all that expensive to produce, and for some channels those ratings would be an absolute blessing.
The thing that annoys me the most is that Law & Order was actually going through a renaissance, I thought. After Jerry Orbach left, I don't think the show quite had a cast that gelled effectively - Dennis Farina, Annie Parisse and Milena Govich didn't quite work (though to be fair it seemed the show was actively working against poor old Milena). But the Lupo/Bernard and Cutter/Rubirosa partnerships were really effective, and the dynamic between Cutter and McCoy was very different and gave the show a real boost. Those last three years were really good series, and it seems such a shame that they cancelled the programme at a time when it really was bringing out top quality drama. Ah well...
Yeah, it would have been a bit weird for Logan to turn up at SVU, certainly after working Major Case. That said, might have been fun to see him replace Cragen as CO
Southerlyn is gay? Wow. Then again, I never paid that much attention to the mothership.
Well, we don't know that all the girls were over sixteen when he *first* had sex with them. The redhead who had his child could have been sixteen before she got pregnant.
Amaro is just bland and annoying. The way L&O goes, every detective has to have their token problem. So, Amaro has a wife that we're supposed to believe is a bitch. Because she lied to him, as opposed to cheated. And now, he's become a woman-hater out of the blue. Right. Not to say that the detectives' horror stories aren't legit or serious...they just all have issues. XD
Cassidy is coming back?! Wow, there's a blast from the past...Dean Winters is smokin' hot though, so if those rumors are true, it's something to look forward to...in my case, at least.
Yeah, in one of the most cack-handed character developments the series has ever produced. When DA Branch fires Serena Southerlyn she asks "Is it because I'm a lesbian?" and he replies "No...no, not at all." "Good," she says, while everyone watching went, "Where the hell did *that* come from???? Didn't she have a boyfriend last season???" On the one hand I suppose it's really good in that her sexuality was irrelevent to her job, but on the other, it's surprising she didn't mention it when the case was homosexually orientated. Still, it's all in the past now
I thought there was specific mention that all the girls were sixteen when he met them, but I did a quick bit of research and I believe the age of consent in New York is 17, so if the girls were sixteen (and I think the first three were...) then it was statutory rape, and certainly fell under SVU's purview. However, that doesn't explain why they were called in for the boy's phone call (though I can explain that away )
Oh, that's right, and I'm annoyed for B D Wong! Stephanie March and Diane Neal both get "special guest star" credits, Tamara Tunie gets a "special appearance by" credit, but B D was lumped in with the "guest stars"! He was a bloody series regular for eight years!!! No respect, poor guy...
I don't think the detectives on L&O have token problems...I think - with the exception of SVU - we don't see much of their personal lives and so it seems tokenistic, but it's just because they are never fully developed as characters on screen. Someone once said that the casting in L&O was really important because in order to convey a character in a series that doesn't really have them, the actors have to bring a sense of history to the part, which is why Ben Stone, Jack McCoy, Lennie Briscoe, Rey Curtis, Mike Logan, etc were all great characters - because the actors gave a sense that there was a history there. For me, I don't find Amaro bland, but I don't think Danny Pino quite convinces me that this guy goes home and has a life, if you know what I mean. Both Amaro and Rollins have the issue that's been revealed at work, but I believe Rollins is out at the pub, watching movies, getting laid...there's a depth that Kelli Giddish brings to the character. Amaro...I dunno. He just seems to be the work character. I think we need more.
Not rumours - there was a press release saying Dean was coming back for the finale I'm curious to see how they work Cassady back into the show Might be good for you...I have to say at the moment there's very little eye candy for me Another reason to miss Law & Order...Carey Lowell, Angie Harmon, Elisabeth Rohm...oh, god and Alana de la Garza (I lust for that woman ).
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